Joanne Bolt (Intro)

The power of a podcast extends well beyond plugging in the mind. So if you're ready to learn how it can help you build a big business, then I’m your best friend, Hi, I'm Joanne Bolt and I am obsessed with all things podcasting, and creating an unapologetically big revenue business with it from podcast guesting to podcast hosting and everything in between. We're gonna dive into it all and show you step by awesome step how using a podcast can and will grow your business. So grab a glass of wine and pop your headphones on. Cuz, Girlfriend, happy hour has begun here on the B-Word.

 

Joanne Bolt

Alright guys, welcome back to the B word. And Lindsay, I am so excited to have you on the show today. Welcome.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

I'm so excited to be here. Thank you.

 

Joanne Bolt

Oh my gosh. So you guys, if you don't know. And if you don't know, then clearly you're just now tuning into the B word because they talk about Lindsey all the freaking time. But she probably doesn't know that and silently stalk her a little bit. But I really have watched this woman's amazing career really develop unfold over the last few years. I seriously Lizzie I'm like the silent stalker that you never knew until I popped into your world last February when I finally said I have to meet her in person. And I have to show up at one of her masterminds. So Lindsey, the powerhouse a woman herself. Tell everyone a little bit about your journey from writing the book and then starting the community. And then we're going to kind of loop it around to where you are today because I have some major questions about the today piece.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

Mm hmm. Ooh, I'm so excited to get into all of it. Yeah, the challenge is always to try and share the story in a concise way. Because there's so many lessons that unless you really were side by side with me day in day out watching me try and fail and cry my way through this, this process of building what I've built today, you could be fooled by looking at the outside picture, the highlight reel into thinking that I'm any different than you are those of you listening. And the truth is, this journey has really just showed me what it takes in order to step into something that's way bigger than you. And it's it's taught me that not only am I perfectly capable, but we all are, it's just going to be on the other side of doing some things that feel really uncomfortable. And where I was seven years ago was in a season of discomfort. But it was a it was a self imposed discomfort that was brought on by the fact that I was just kind of playing it safe, I was only doing the things that I knew I would be good at I would say this is how I would describe it is I realize now looking back I would I was giving maybe 60 to 70% of my full potential on a given day building this other business that I was building. And I it was tricky because I could make it look like 100% I was getting resolved I was I was being recognized. But deep down if you know there's more you there comes a point where you can't ignore that anymore. And in this season of restlessness I come across a post by a random acquaintance. It wasn't even a good friend, not even someone that I like really trusted or had a deep relationship with but a post on Facebook that that was something to the effect of she was doing a program to help entrepreneurs write a book and I still today have the screenshot saved on my desktop. Because I it was the moment that really changed everything. But I it didn't make any logical sense because I would I have a screenshot of is the message I sent her literally said, I don't know why I'm messaging you. I don't ever plan to write a book. But something in me kind of said, Hey, you should look into that. And that message led to signing on to do this 16 week program. We'll skip to the end. And the spoiler alert is I wrote a book that I never planned to be anything more than that I didn't have an audience. I didn't have a plan to build a community or host events or anything. But what started to happen during that year of writing the book and getting over myself getting out of my own way facing my fears is I was learning these lessons and realizing that there was just a really a deeper meaning behind what I was writing about and what I the impact I wanted to make. And then the publisher editor slash publisher said you should do a book launch event. And it sounded like no fun to do an event that was all about me. So I said, Well, maybe you know, we could have an event where we have speakers and talk to kind of bring the message of this book to life because the book and then the community and everything that has come since then, was really inspired by just this very simple realization I had where I was in another business in health and fitness. And you know, like I said, on the surface, it looked great, and it was great. I had a great life. It wasn't pretend I just knew it wasn't it wasn't my full potential. There was more for me and people would look at that version and say, Gosh, I'm so inspired by what you've done or I would love to do my own thing, or I have this idea for a business and every single time I would sit, you know whether it was across from someone at coffee or on a zoom call like this. And in the next breath without skipping a beat, they would tell me why they weren't ready. They didn't know enough, they didn't have the right network, they were afraid. And every single time I kind of be like, Wait, hold, the phone would stop right there. Didn't anyone tell you. That's actually how you know you're going in the right direction. We all feel that way. And I realized we had a duty. And if I wanted to really make this change, it started with me to share more of the real journey behind the scenes of building businesses and pursuing big dreams. Otherwise, we were doing the rest of the world a disservice. And people were sitting on brilliant ideas, thinking that we all have it all together. And this is why I love you, because you keep it so raw and real. We do not have anything together, I am actively still to this day figuring things out as I go. And with that, this little seed of an idea grew into what's now the powerhouse women community and event and podcast. And, you know, this global movement that I'm still unqualified, like, if we think of qualifications, I'm completely unqualified to lead. But that's actually the place that I want to be, I always want to be stepping into the next version of myself, and expanding and growing, and making sure that people along the way, see the highlights, but also the failures and the challenges so that they know that they can do it, too.

 

Joanne Bolt

I love this so much, for several reasons. A, it gave me permission to show the world what a shit show it really is, I probably would have been afraid to do that if other people were already stepping out like you and showing the world but, you know, I grew up in, and I'm sure you did, too, in this era, where what you showed to the public and this was way before social media, you know, it's what you showed up to wear in church and what how you looked at school and how you behaved at restaurants. But that public facing piece was always the best version. And it was all like whatever was going on at home, like, don't tell people don't let them know, you know, don't let them know that you might not wash your hair on a Saturday morning or that we had a fight yesterday. And so I think that we innately ingrained in us as a result, not to show that to the world. And by opening those doors, there's a whole next generations got an entirely different opportunity.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

Oh, true. That's so good. And I get it right. Because as a business owner, you are curating a brand. You know, if those of you listening have a business, or you're really creating a brand, maybe out of your personal brand, that is something to take into consideration. I don't necessarily think that you have to show all you don't have to air everything out online. I'm just talking about bringing a little bit more honesty into the conversation, which I think the fear is that it'll make people trust us less. And the truth is my experience and I'm curious to hear yours, too, is it's actually had people trust me more, because they they know I'm in in the same lessons that they're going through. And I've I've earned the right to mentor them or speak to that topic. And that was always the fear is, well, if people find out that I still struggle, will they want to listen to me? Well, they want to learn from me. And it turns out, they really do they want to learn most of us want to learn from someone who's going to share both The Good, the Bad, and The Ugly.

 

Joanne Bolt

Especially when that someone is so open about saying this was my experience. That doesn't mean it'll be the same for you. But I did it the way you're suggesting I was going down the path you were going and this is the result I found, then that also gives that person that opportunity to continue down that path and either figure out a different solution or when they have the same failing result. They can look at you even more and be like oh, okay, really? She knows what she's talking about, huh? Yeah, that's so good. Because you're not you're not sharing those behind the scene like fail moments out of a, you know, I'm better than you attitude. It's a Oh, please don't make the mistake that I did.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

Yep. Let me save you the trouble and the heartache if I can. But also, if you go through this, and if you feel the same pain than out here, let me show you that you're not alone in right. Totally. Yeah. And I think if you come from that place, it does come across authentically. And here's honestly the biggest thing is it took the pressure off of me took the pressure off, I do not have to be perfect. I do not have to have it all together or be confident every single day in order to make a difference. And that was for a long time. What did stop me that is what did keep me playing in that comfortable zone because I didn't like the feeling of being uncomfortable and being you know, stepping beyond what I knew I was capable of. But in in turn, I ended up the reason I felt so restless is because I wasn't growing. And I think that's really why we're here if we will forget like very, I think we're just on this planet to grow and learn lessons along the way and make a difference as we do it.

 

Joanne Bolt

I agree. And I will tell you one of the biggest lessons I learned from you personally, had nothing to do with what the mastermind was was about and it had nothing to do with anything we were actually discussing that it was, you're gonna laugh, but it was just one concept. You were okay standing in front of the 22 of us that were there at that mastermind and saying, I love you all. I'm here to build community with you, please don't be upset that I'm not going to go out to dinner with you. I need to unpeople for a little bit. Like, I need to be able to go back to my own space. Yeah. And it just be me. And I literally sat there and thought, Oh, my God, thank you, because I'm there at this event. And I'm like, Oh, we're supposed to go network. And we're supposed to go do all these things. But I have this innate need myself to like retreat and just process and be by myself, and you gave me permission to do that. Which is probably not something you set out to do. But by being open and vulnerable, it allowed me to know that that's okay.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

Yeah. And that's such a great, a great example of that something that I had to overcome, learn it the hard way, that the less I had boundaries around my own energy and was showing up and thinking I had to be everything to everyone at events, I was actually shortcutting their experience because they weren't connecting with each other as much. And especially knowing the group of women that I was impacting and speaking to in this realm, all of you are leaders, all of you are serving others in big ways. It was my duty to show an example of what it can look like to have very loving boundaries be fully available during the day during our sessions, and fully have boundaries that I honor myself with on the other side of that so that I can come back the next day and serve in the way I want to. So yeah, everything is a lesson it is that actually was intentional to share that with you all because while I learned did not realize that, but it works. But because I learned it watching someone else do it. And I was like, Oh, that was delicious.

 

Joanne Bolt

Did that really? 

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

Oh, it was so refreshing. Yeah. Why it? 

 

Joanne Bolt

Yep. So like, Wait, so I don't have to...

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

Be the party girl, the center of it, like not center of attention. But like, I don't have to win the whole group wants to go out go with them. Like that's okay to say I need time to be in my own hotel space. And yeah, I think way. And people would probably be surprised to hear this about you. I hear all the time, people are surprised to hear this about me because I I can and I actually do love being onstage I love being at events, I love speaking. And I'm more of an introvert in that I have to recharge alone. And I actually require a lot of alone time needs here a lot of alone time in order to process in the way I want to process and show up the way I want to. So even just that, you know, I think it's so cool to learn about ourselves through this journey. Because the more I have, then it allows me to have the kind of conversations even with my own husband to say, I'm not trying to, you know, I'm not mad or I'm not upset. That's not why I'm kind of like locking myself in my office. It's because I'm recharging my own energy. And I just need a little bit of alone time to do that. And realizing like that makes me a better wife. It makes me a more present friend. And then to have those conversations without apologizing for having that need.

 

Joanne Bolt

I've actually taken that into the ability to translate that to my children as well. You know, Emily and I were in the car just this afternoon. And she's just chatterbox sang all over the place. You know, she just had her first babysitting job. She was super excited over it. And I like wanted to hear everything she had to tell me and and then I realized at one point, she said, Mom, are you even listening? And I was like, No, I'm actually not. And I apologize to her. I was like I am so sorry. You are ready to just chatterbox. Mom needs a little bit of me time because I need to process a few other things in my brain. And I cannot do that right now. So she was like, okay, yeah, but she just took it and ran off. And I didn't feel bad about it. Because I was like, Okay, I didn't just lie to her and say I was listening. I actually explained to her, I just needed a little bit of me time.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

And can you imagine if we had been taught that lesson as teenagers? Oh, and grew up knowing it was okay to have those boundaries and and have those conversations about the boundaries that is going to serve her in such big ways. That's really cool.

 

Joanne Bolt

Yeah, my husband, I often talk about my son because he's very much like me, and not and she's very much like my husband. And so Jeff will get frustrated when Hunter just needs to go in his room. And he's like, Oh, he's such a teenager, he just needs to go and shut the door and be by himself. I'm like, or he's a mini me. And he just needs space. Like, give him the space and then he'll come back out and interact. And sure enough, when we give him the space, we'll come back out and interact. But when we try to force him to, that's when the teenager comes out on him.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

Yep, I mean, I resonate with that so hard. And I can always tell when I am not taking care of my own energy in that way because I do get frustrated. I don't show up as the person that I want to for my team for my my husband for the people in my life and that's on me. No one is forcing me to show up that way. That's me not having the self love to enforce those boundaries. Or maybe I'm even unaware for a long time, I was just unaware of what my needs were because I never thought about it. But then realizing I could have those conversations and ask her what I needed with love. And most people will understand that if it's coming from a place of you want to, you're communicating what you need, so that you can show up for them even better. Yeah, yeah.

 

Joanne Bolt

All right. So let's progress a little bit beyond the book that you wrote. And then you started this event, and it's called the powerhouse Women event. It's in Arizona, I will tell you the first time I ever saw the event, I thought it was in Arizona, just because it was an awesome hotel and a great resort location. And then I realized you live there. And I was like, Oh, well, that's just a freaking brilliant piece of marketing move. You know, keep it where you live and keep it local. That makes it easier. But it's there every single year, and it's grown from year to year to year, I think, what are you up to for the August event of 2023? Like 500, women will probably have about 650. Okay, so now it's not some small mid size event. It's getting to that size that for me, I'm kind of like, okay, that's a lot of people in right there. Yeah, I think you serve that entrepreneur, female stepping into that next self, or the first version of the next version of her. So, so so well. But I will tell you, as I watched over the years from afar, and obviously now they are at the event, as well, but you and you have said this yourself, you've gone from really great speakers on stage. And this year, you have a little bit hot, like a different level of women on your stage. And so that alone attests to how you yourself has grown as an entrepreneur. And I'm interested in curious to hear from you like what do you think the next phase for Lindsey is? Because why I don't think you'll ever not be powerhouse woman Lindsey and taking care of those young, budding entrepreneurs. There's got to be that need for you. Because I know you went on a retreat with Jenna and Amy and Jasmine star like all these people that most of your audience is probably thinking like, how the hell did you get in that room? I mean, we know you're capable. But really how the hell did you get in that room with robes at a retreat? Like what how do I get there? Yeah. And if you've hit that level of those are your pizzas now? What's next? What's What's your next big step? I will. I'll tell you selfishly, what I would love to see is that right? I love the mastermind step for the step above the powerhouse women, you know, like that. Okay, y'all have started your event, and you're ready to hit the Jasmine star Lizzie Schwarz any Porterhouse sitting around in your bathrobe level, but I know for you that has to like feed your soul at some level. So really like what's next? That was a really long winded way of saying what's next?

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

No, but I love it. And I love hearing the question. I always want to hear from people, what do they want next? Because I truly have never created something that wasn't born in a conversation just like that. But I will share, maybe not the answer you were expecting. But this is the truest answer of where we're at in the business right now. And I say we because I have a business partner that I build this with and an amazing team. But Hannah and I, my business partner, and I, you know, we're we're making some pretty drastic moves that may not seem drastic to other people. But we're getting very clear. And we took space this year, we did less, we didn't run a mastermind so that we could have space to really sit with the bigger vision and the bigger picture because there's so many different directions that we could go in. There's so many things we could do. But what we know is that we love hosting events and creating experiences, including like the mastermind retreat you got to be a part of creating experiences is one of the things that I know I'm here to do and to do in a bigger way into that'll that'll evolve a little bit. There's some ideas there. We love our podcast. I love to serve people in this like one to many capacity. And I've always known that about myself as well. I've never done one on one coaching. But I think the evolution for me now comes in the form of stepping in and being open to and getting my energy ready to serve on bigger stages. Now I don't just mean bigger stages as far as events but I think there's a possibility of media, AKA a TV show or something of that nature. We've considered that I just we're getting ready as a brand. We're getting ready as individuals so we can be prepared for these these bigger opportunities, but it's requiring and this has been the uncomfortable part. It's requiring me to be less available. Meaning I'm not doing as many podcast interviews, the ones that I'm doing are the ones that are like, Oh, hell, yes, I want to, I want to talk to that person, which is exactly why I'm here. And I'm not doing as many smaller coaching containers, at least for right now. And I'm sharing this to share with anyone who's who's listening as an entrepreneur where you get to a point where the thing like for me, the thing that used to stretch me the most was hosting a mastermind. And then it was clear at the end of last year, when we completed last year's mastermind, that it was time for a pause, I don't know that it's a complete, we'll never do one again. But in order to really preserve energy, like we've been talking about, to serve at that bigger level, but also just to take some space and time to really get quiet and get still. And I know you're a high achiever, just like me, that's one of the most difficult things for me to do is just get quiet, especially when I'm surrounded by and you know, my friends circle now includes these women who've created multi multi million dollar businesses, doing things that when I think about doing that, like if I think about scaling, just an ecourse business, it doesn't light me up. So I know that that's like, that could be really profitable. That's amazing. But I know that that's not the thing that I want to give all my energy to. So right now, it's I'm very much in the personal evolution, getting ready for something that I don't actually think I can see yet. But what the stage I'm at is requiring me to say no to things that were like dream opportunities five years ago. And that's the part not many people talk about is like, you got to say, a lot of noes to save space to get ready for to even leave room to create and nurture these higher level relationships that are on a whole different level than you know, the relationships I've had up until this point. So I don't actually know what's next. I just know that it's requiring a lot of stillness and a lot of space right now to get ready for it. But I'm excited, I can't wait to share what I'm doing figure out exactly what that is.

 

Joanne Bolt

I think that's awesome. And, and I have watched you build your team, over the last 12 months, you've added a few people on you've created some roles. And so I think that's probably is to put it in like the, for lack of better terms, a mother mothering nesting, you're almost like nesting to get ready for that next version, that you're not sure what it's going to look like. But you know, you're getting the people in place to make sure what you've already built doesn't skip a beat when you hit that next place.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

And that's, that's so important. Because an all I'll share just from a personal stance, and I know I'm not the only one who feels this way, because I have conversations with entrepreneurs all the time, especially those that have kind of evolved beyond, okay, I'm not really challenged by the idea of starting a business like I get it. I'm in action. I'm I'm out getting out of my own way, like all of you in the mastermind. But then there's this other part of us who's like, but why isn't it happening? Why isn't it happening faster? Why am I not getting those opportunities? Why aren't people noticing me? Where's my invitation for the girls weekend with these, like high level entrepreneurs, and I get it, because I felt that way, I've felt impatient almost my entire journey. And I don't think impatience is a bad thing, I think that's part of it is just my drive to always kind of be better evolve, grow. But I have to be careful where I'm putting expectations on my journey, my expansion that aren't, they aren't correlated with where I'm at, like my personal growth level, meaning had I, you know, gotten the opportunities I'm getting now even to be in certain social circles, I wouldn't have been ready for that I didn't, I didn't have enough like a self image that matched the level of the relationships that are now a part of my life, I can see my growth, I can see how I can hold my own. Even if I am the least successful person in the room where that wouldn't have always been the case or, you know, to be in certain friendships, you got to be ready for it to be held massively accountable, which can be really uncomfortable. So realizing that we're never like the journey is always going at the exact pace. It's, it's meant to, and even when we can't see it, we're being prepared for what's next, we're being prepared at an identity level. Because if you've got if you just got all of your dreams tomorrow, most of us wouldn't be prepared to handle that. And that's hard. Like if I don't love admitting that or I guess I don't love that reality because I think I want it all right now, but I really don't.

 

Joanne Bolt

Well, and I would say in your friend circle, you're definitely not the smallest fish in the sea, even if you sometimes feel that way. Because there's always a skill set and always some reason they brought you into their world and it's because they either needed your personality or they just needed you to fill a void and a gap but there's something energetically that brought you into their world. So you know, true Smith in that moment. And while that could...

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

It's yeah, it's my amazing humor. So I like to tell myself,

 

Joanne Bolt

No, it's your clothes, it's your, it's totally your closet.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

Also that, also that, yes, my dance moves, who knows, it's just the intangibles. But you're right. And that's, that's very much like the season that I'm in now where I know, I no longer feel like I don't belong in really in any room. Now, that doesn't mean that I am going to be invited into every room, but I'm operating in a different frequency. And how I know it is that I'm getting the invites, right, I'm getting invites that I wouldn't have gotten before, which is really, it's cool in a different way than I thought it would be. It's cool to look internally and go, Oh, that's, that's awesome. I've, I've really changed, I can feel how differently I'm showing up. This is all the external stuff is great, but it's just showing me the growth that I've had. And that's the thing I'm most excited of about and proud of.

 

Joanne Bolt

I love that. Alright, so let's actually loop back to something you said that is still in my brain from the very beginning of the conversation. You said you it looked like you were operating in 100%. But you were only at about 60%. Did you know you were operating at 60%? Or did you figure out later when you looked back that you were only at 60%? 

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

I honestly didn't. I wasn't aware. It wasn't like I didn't know that I could be doing different things in my previous business, but the internal dialogue, and this will kind of be a glimpse into where my mindset was that I would look at other people who were getting the results that I wanted. And I felt like I was doing all the same actions. And I was doing some of them. Like I wasn't. And that's that's a tricky thing, too. Because we can never see when I wasn't following these people around and seeing every conversation they had every time that, you know, they made that extra phone call, they made that extra, you know, contact that I wasn't making, because I was stopping where I was comfortable. So I think I was fooling myself because I was really, really good at making up busy work. So I could feel important.

 

Joanne Bolt

That's good, right? I think a lot of people do that. Yeah. Yeah, I know, when I was in the real estate world, that was the number one killer of your time was because you didn't have a boss. Yeah, it was a busy work so that you felt like you were a super successful real estate, you know, real estate agent. If you weren't having the closings, then the receipts weren't there. I think when we enter into just generic entrepreneurship world, or the digital world, or whatever it is, and we don't have someone saying every day what to do to hit the goal, and giving us the goals to hit and the steps to get there we we do find that we can fill our days with busy work.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

Yeah. And that's a tricky place to be because then what also happens is your brain, I very much had like this addiction to work. And I was I was seeking validation by being busy. Because I wasn't okay with the thought that results could come easily. I didn't feel worthy of them if I didn't have to work really hard, probably like the Midwest mentality that was ingrained in me growing up. But What's tricky about that is then I got to a place where I was like, well shoot, I can't even imagine what it would take to grow my business because I'm already tapped out energetically. So that that previous business really taught me a lot of lessons that when I transitioned into fully building powerhouse women, a few years later, now I can, I can feel the difference when I'm pushing and controlling and when I'm making up work, so I can feel important, versus when I'm focusing on the things that are actually moving the needle. And letting and this has been a huge lesson to like empowering a team around me to do the rest. Because that's the other thing that I default to when I'm sabotaging myself for being just really honest here. And we are is I will find myself obsessing over and like little details that actually are none of my business. Yeah, and that's just how I know I'm like, okay, all right, yeah, time to step back, release the control. Because that's, that's usually a sign that like internally your nervous system is starting to be triggered by the fact that you're moving toward you're kind of evolving into this next level of you. And it's going to require you to show up differently to think differently to operate differently and that does feel scary.

 

Joanne Bolt

So I spent last week I took a look at one of the pieces of my business and I was like I'm gonna burn the boats down. You know that that saying that like if you get to the island and the you burn all the boats, you burn the exit strategy. So you have to figure this out. And I spent two and a half day is just diving into the details of the piece of the business. I wanted to revamp relook at and build it up the way I really wanted it to and finally my integrator Steven he called me out on it. And he was like, What the hell are you doing? And I'm like, Steven, I'm breaking it down. I've got all these columns in the spreadsheets and the doc. And he's like, No, you cast the vision of where you want this piece to go. Now you have to trust your team to make that happen. And you're getting in the weeds and not moving it forward, you're actually moving backward. And I'm like, so insulted was like rude, you talking about? And he's like, Joanne, did you just create a landing page for it? And I'm like I did. And I was so excited. He's like, that is not your job.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

Yep. So relatable. Oh, my gosh.

 

Joanne Bolt

Oh, but you're right. Like I was so energized by the whole thing that I let myself do the busy work not to feel good about what but it was just the energy was so there, I know, I'm going in the right direction. But boy, what did my team let me know that? Yeah, no, I just took their jobs from them. And they weren't okay with that.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

And that's such a normal part of the growth of a leader as well. So hopefully, those of you listening to this know that it's completely normal, it's, it feels really uncomfortable to to make that transition, especially from solopreneur, to leader of a team, because the things that got you to start the business, and the qualities that you had to embody, are completely different than the qualities you need to embody to be a leader of a team who runs a business.

 

Joanne Bolt

But it's so hard sometimes to bridge that gap, right to go from the I did create all the web pages and write all the email sequences to No, now I have to trust that they're going out the way that I want them to. And they're being said in my voice, in my words, but maybe I didn't exactly write them myself, or I didn't exactly create that page. Like it's not a for me, it's not a fear of, you know, letting go. It's the I'm so used to doing that. It just drives me crazy to not do it.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

Yeah. And, and the advice I've heard, which is also still something that I'm very much learning and practicing myself is that it won't ever be exactly like the way we would do it. It just won't. But if it's 70% good enough. That's good enough.

 

Joanne Bolt

All right. That's great advice. And that was me that 70% Good enough, is good enough. And loves don't learning that lesson myself. To be clear. Awesome. Well, Lindsey, thank you, just from the bottom of my heart for taking the time out in your world. I know like you said, you're in that season of saying no, calming things down, getting ready for the storm that will come after the big event in August after you figure out where you're going next. And so I feel like it's a really huge privilege to be one of those people that you said yes to because you definitely been a huge part of my life over the last year and I cannot wait to see you know what's going on next and powerhouse women and to watch you continue to grow and evolve.

 

Lindsey Schwartz 

That's what makes it so fun is to be on this journey with women like you who are evolving right along with me. And you know, for us to really get to experience this together. It's what inspired the entire community right that idea that we're not meant to do this alone. And I can't watch wait to look back five years from now and see where all of us are right everyone who was in the mastermind to see where your business is to see where powerhouse women is. And I think that's ultimately my my greatest wish is just that the community piece is what people know powerhouse women for well.

 

Joanne Bolt

And I will definitely say it has a different feel to it. So if you haven't looked into it, obviously go look up the girl gang. We will put links to everything in the show notes. But you know, we are always gonna be pointing you in Lindsay's direction that's just been part of my journey. So I will continue to do so as well. And until next time, guys, as always build your empire and put a mic on it. And we'll see you next time.

 

Joanne Bolt

You just finished another episode of the B word podcast. Cheers to you. If I were with you, I would literally pop a big ol bottle of Prosecco and pour you a glass since I'm not why don't you do the next best thing and share this episode with one of your besties because we all know you've got that one girlfriend that needs to hear it. Thanks friends.

 

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